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Jack Panzica 27.02.2012 14:35

Repair of Convertible Top Frame
 
Thirty some years ago I put a German Haartz Sonneland canvas top on my 66 roadster. I was tired of the cheap vinyl tops of the time, and as I drove my car all the time, I wanted a top that would look good and last.

30 years later and 150,000 plus miles, it was time for a new top. I have some pictures to share with you of what I found under my old top.

I knew that one of the rivets on the frame was not working as the weatherstrip on the drivers side would not line up, leaving a gap between the window and the two window weatherstrips that bolt on.

First I must say that the material used (tackboard) 45 years ago is far superior to the "fiberboard" sold now. The original board was fiber board sewn between two leather strips.

I found some rust that I have to deal with . The problem that many face with their tops is the nylon bushing that centers the rivets. When it breaks, the top mechanism does not work correctly and you will have uneven weatherstrip problems.

It usually is not the rivet as I found out, but the bushing.

Next, you can order the rivets from most vendors, but none listed the nylon bushing. Without it , you will not be able to fix the problem and be able to set the rivet.

Jerry Sullivan of "Sully's Tops" www.SullysTops.com 1-800-451-3998 Fresno, CA

Gave me a call and he has the bushings. He actually manufacturers the rivets for the vendors who sell them. Funny they don't list them.

He put them in the mail and said, " send me the check when you get them" Very nice man and I would use him for any parts that may be needed to restore the top frame. He is a 17 year NCRS member



Setting the rivet. You need to clamp the rivet, and frame tight, block the rivet and smack the end of the rivet with the hole with a big hammer. Flatten it a bit and pine it over.

I will let you know how that works, I ordered extra rivets just in-case

32 year old top



Bottom , top , sides , rivet hole , rust areas , straps , fiber tack strip of frame









Original tack strip





Rivet and nylon bushing



Weatherstrip kit and padding to be put on after canvas is installed



I am having the top installed after seeing the way the tacks have to be driven. Speedy did it 30 years ago for me and he will do it again on the 12th.

I hope the frame comes out OK, I am doing the work and I am always leery of my work.

Just finished up the frame this afternoon. I drive the car to the installer tomorrow. Weather is going to be cold but dry.

As show in pictures, my frame needed two nylon bushings replaced. The hard part is the setting of the rivets. You can order the rivets from the usual vendors, but it is not the rivet that goes, it is the bushing. You need a special setting tool and the ability to block the rivet. Palmers Springs Shop, making springs and carriages since 1860's had a 70 year old part worker who could set it for me.
A large hammer and anvil helped.

Sully's Tops in Fresno CA was the only place I could find to get the bushings. Jerry makes the rivets for vendors.

Rivet and bushings




Before



After



Sandblasting rust




Old frame



Restored frame on car ready to top installation







Tomorrow pictures of top on car




KooJii 27.02.2012 15:15

Nice looking job! :rock:

Corvette63 27.02.2012 15:30

Nice transformation! Did you install the top by yourself? I wish my rag top would fit that nice... :thumrigh:

KTM 27.02.2012 20:30

What is that bright part at center?

Do you have third lock at front of the top? These tops usually are leaking besauce lack of center lock, but you might have solution for that!

hateju 28.02.2012 12:20

good job and selfmade!:D

groovyjay 28.02.2012 23:38

Very inspirational and informative! :rock:

Jack Panzica 29.02.2012 23:52

Yes Third Latch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KTM
What is that bright part at center?

Do you have third lock at front of the top? These tops usually are leaking besauce lack of center lock, but you might have solution for that!


Yes I installed a third latch after getting wet for 41 years. It stops the rain completely. GM put a third latch in 1968 but could not or would not spend to money to do it in mid 60.s cars.

It pulls down center bow that raises at speed to let in rain. It is a $ 7 part.

Here are some pictures








86vette 02.03.2012 21:41

Great pictures and nice topic, go on and welcome to Finland :D


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